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City and County of San Francisco
Commission of Animal Control & Welfare Archived Meetings

Meeting Information


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5:40 PM

 

1. Call to Order and Roll Call

 

Present, Commissioners,  Sally Stephens, Pam Hemphill, Angela Padilla, Philip Gerrie, Laurie Kennedy-Routhier,   David Gordon DVM, William Herndon – SF Police, Vicky, Guldbech – ACC,

 

Absent, Commissioners:  Andrea Brooks, Bob Palacio – Rec & Park

 

2. General Public Comment

 

Richard Fong - Speaking  on Chinatown  live  animal  markets. SF lacks a Game Warden.  Fish & Game conducted  sting  operation. They  found poached  ducks; crabs,  lobsters for sale to the public.

 

Kiska Icard – Communications Manager SPCA –  SPCA supports California AB 233. Enlightened  approach to homeless  animals. Allows deduction of up to $300 from State income  tax  for adoptions  expenses  from shelter and rescue groups. Local governments spend apx.  250 million  annually  on sheltering  800,000  cats and dogs that are abandoned each year. Increasing  numbers  are  being surrendered. Bill will incentive  more  people  to visit shelters. Encourages  people to write  representative to support  AB 233.

 

3. Approval of Draft Minutes for March 12, 2009

 

3. Public Comment

 

Tina Ahn – Corrects name and title as “SF/SPCA Director of Development   and Communications”

 

Cynthia Cox – Corrects statement,  “Wasn’t here to talk about statistics.  Every  animal  that  is killed  when  healthy  is a failure.”

 

Public Comment  closed

 

Minutes approved unanimously   with  minor  corrections.

 

4. Chairperson’s report and opening remarks

 

A) Comr. Stephens – Reported  on March 30, 2009 Joint Zoo Meeting,  JZC. Agreed to report back  to ACWC as appointed  person.  Noted a lot of give and take between  audience  and  Commissioners.  Attendance  down due to weather.  Zeppelin  flying over  zoo freaked out many  animals. Especially  primates.  Carl Friedman  contacted   company  to request not flying over zoo. South American Aviary shut down due to leaky  roof. May have  money  to fix but details  unclear.  Audience  member  questioned  bringing  in baby  hippo  forEurope.  Majority  of time spent  on animal transactions.  Questioned source  of frogs from address  on Capp  St. Discussion ongoing whether  to open lion house.  May meeting will be held at zoo.

 

Comr. Padilla – Who sets agenda for JZ meetings?  What influence can we have  on what  items are placed on agenda  to improve  condition  of zoo animals?

 

Comr. Stephens – Not clear yet. Trying to answer  the question  of  the advisory  roll .

 

4 A Public Comment

 

Richard Fong – At previous Commission  meetings  discussed  water  situation  for various  animals  such as the polar bear  and the grey seal. Wants  to bring  up in the  advisory  capacity  to fix their situation to improve  water  quality.

 

Mark Ennis – Commends  Sally on bringing  up health  issues  such  as pneumonia .  Also commends  Sally for questioning  procedures  for bringing  in animals  to the zoo.  Concern  over  bringing  in new  hippo  from  Europe.  Should  not bring in more  animals  while  current  animal  conditions  need improvement.   Focus should be on black  rhinos  that  reside there.  Ongoing  issue at JZ meetings  is how deaths  are  reported  without  listing  the  cause.  Necropsies  are slow to come  in. Tried  to  recommend   a system  to report  cause  of  death  as available.  May JZ  meeting, held  at the zoo,   will  have  a report  from the  Vet  on cause of death.  Before death  report  was  “pending”. No one knew  cause  of  death.

 

Comr. Stephens – They said vet would give reports at the May & November   meetings.

 

5.Status and tracking of letters of recommendation, requesting action by the Board

 

A) Update  on foie gras resolution, commending  restaurants  that  stopped  selling  foie gras.

 

Comr. Gerrie – Resolution was adopted  by the Board on March 24 and signed by the Mayor on April 2nd. A story in the Chronicle  mentioned that  the Mayor’s sister, Hilary Newsom,  president  of the Plumpjack  Group, had foie gras completely removed from their  restaurants.

 

Comr. Stephens – It got some attention in the media. It was one of the few things the Mayor and the Board  agreed  on.

 

Comr. Padilla – Frequents a popular  restaurant , Salt House, on Mission st. It still serves foie gras, especially  at lunch. Intends to write  a letter to them about that practice. Will tell  lawyer  friends not to patronize . If anyone wants to picket , go to Salt House.

 

6. Unfinished Business

 

Discussion only of no-kill policies.  Presentations  by rescue groups and Dr. Kate Hurley.

 

 

Comr. Padilla -  Two guest speakers  tonight.  Kim Durney from Grateful Dogs  and Dr. Kate Hurley from UC Davis.

 

Kim Durney – Administrative  director  of Grateful Dogs for 6 years. For ten years previously  volunteered in SF’s animal shelters. Has no shelter so needs to foster every  dog . Last year  rescued  180 dogs. Eighty %  from ACC. Budget was $130,000,  95% went directly  to rescue expenses.  Average  expense  per dog  was $700. Average adoption fee was $200. Income  is from donations  and fund-raising  efforts. All volunteer  staff. Has been accused of making a profit.  Takes dogs that are rejected by  SPCA and would be killed by ACC. Average  stay is 3 to 4 months in foster homes.  Grateful Dogs is oldest  all-breed rescue group in SF. Founded by Michelle Parris in early 90’s.

   Perception that SPCA has a no-kill policy.  Disagrees. Basic question is what  purpose should a private  animal shelter serve compared to  a public shelter?  It isn’t forced to operate  as an open door shelter . What is its obligation to the community?  Believes  it should  be to save every  savable  animal. Terms “adoptable”  and  “unadoptable” are meaningless. Rescue groups  take  animals  deemed  unadoptable.  Should be savable  vs. unsavable. Every  animal , not suffering, or a danger, is worth saving.  That should define no-kill. Term  “euthanasia” should only apply  to animals  suffering or a danger.  Need a no-kill ordinance  to define what  no-kill  is. Shelters should not be able to kill savable  animals.

  Steps to no-kill . 1. Promote spay/neuter.  Need print, radio,  and TV ads and PSAs promoting  spay/neuter.  Need low-cost  spay/neuter  services.  2. Keep animals  in current homes.  Need behavior hotlines. Make it easier for pet owners to find rental  properties.  3. Need better  medical  and  behavioral  evaluation.  Only criterion should be “is animal  savable?” SPCA picks  and chooses what  animals  are savable.  Leaves  hard  cases  to rescue groups. Rescue groups bring up savable  numbers  making  ACC and SPCA look good.

   Common  argument  against  no-kill is it results in warehousing of  animals.  Answer  is foster care. Develop  foster care  programs.  Need rigorous adoption process  to make sure animals  are placed  in good homes. Ultimate goal  is adoption , but don’t want to sacrifice quality just to increase  adoption  rate.  Grateful Dogs Rescue has rigorous adoption standards.  Need media campaigns  to adopt shelter  animals  and the virtues of less-than-perfect   animals.  Shelters  need  committed  group  of volunteers. They need  to listen to what  volunteers  have  to say. Need outreach  to inform public  of backyard breeders; importance of spay/neuter; regular vet care; and microchipping.  Shelters need  leadership.  No-kill must come  from shelter  leadership  and legally mandated standards.  If leadership  argues  against  mandating  no-kill,  time to replace them.

 

Comr. Padilla – I hear your comments  directed  towards  the SPCA even though  your experience  was primarily  at ACC. How do you see  the partnership  between  ACC and the SPCA?

 

Kim Durney – Would like all groups  to sit down  together  to work  together. So far, views  of agencies  have  been  far apart . Need comprehensive  effort between shelters and rescue groups  and overall coordination between the two.

 

Comr. Padilla – How  much  money , time, and effort should go into saving  any one animal?  In my rescue group  we become  concerned  when  expenses   exceed $1000  for medical  and  $3000 for behavorial modification . We question if we should have  considered  euthanization   in the first place. Do you have  $ limit? A time limit  to measure  how savable  a dog or cat is for a shelter?

 

Kim Durney – It is different for a shelter who has staff on hand  versus rescue groups that have to pay  out-of-pocket.  The  question  should be, “Is there medical  intervention  that can make a difference?” We don’t have  fixed  $ limit.

 

Comr. Routhier – SPCA has commitments   and programs  far beyond  that of rescue groups. Commends  SPCA for its work. Wants to know  what  should  be cut  from SPCA budget  to save  individual  animals staying  in its shelter  for long periods  of  time. Remembers  when  commitment   was  made  to save  every  savable  dog  from behavioral  perspective.  Had 9 full time staff just for that program.  Was during  dot.com  time, so had enough  funding. Fell in love with one  particular dog,  Suzy,  was in shelter  for three years. Other animals  may have  died due to money spent of Suzy. Wants to know  how to decide  which  dogs die  and which  live.

 

Kim Durney -  Volunteers  can  help  SPCA.

 

Comr. Routhier – Current  volunteer  is huge compared  to paid  staff. They make  all SPCA’s programs doable.

 

Kim Durney –Was Suzy put into a foster home  to work  one  on one?

 

Comr. Routhier – No. She would have been better off with a rescue  group.

 

Kim Durney – SPCA should have  foster care  program. 

 

Comr. Routhier – SPCA does have  foster care program. Primarily  for kittens and some dogs. Not sure  where  resources  are for these programs.  Cites example  of a problem dog, named Suzi, who was in foster care for three years, she did not improve.  Unsure if foster care  is the  most humane  solution to dogs with behavioral problems. 

 

Kim Durney – Every possible  alternative  should be applied before deciding  to end  an animals  life.

 

Comr. Routhier  - It is complicated  to make that decision.  There  is no villain. Saddened  to hear public  villainizing  the SPCA. SPCA has improved . Wonders  if it is due to new management. Villainization of  SPCA is not accurate .

 

KimDurney  - If there is to be a no-kill  policy, it needs to come  from shelter  leaders.  Difficult to make  progress without  their support. We have  a public  and a private  shelter.

Where  does  responsibility  lie?  Should rescue  groups  be taking  the tough cases?  Animals  deserve  a chance. Unsure if they  are getting  all of the chances  at the shelters.

 

Comr. Routhier – Maybe just  a philosophical  difference.  Worked with respected person,  who developed   assessment  standards,  who wanted to work towards  putting  SPCA out of business in that  their outreach programs would be so comprehensive  that  everyone  would  be able to keep  their animals  safe and healthy.  So that there  wouldn’t be any homeless  and abandoned  animals. Do all of that before  putting resources  into behavioral  rehab. 

 

Kim Durney  - Said it would take time. Not overnight.  Done in phases. Might take 5 or 10 years.

 

Comr. Routhier -  Will we get there if we cut  programs  at SPCA and boost  behavior  rehab?

 

Kim Durney – Doesn’t know  what  programs  would have to be cut.

 

Comr. Routhier – Doesn’t know  either. SPCA has limited  resources.

 

Kim Durney  -  Emphasis  should be  on animals  in this community. 

 

Comr. Routhier – Philosophical  difference  will always exist. Point is how do we work together?  Wants to work with Grateful Dogs. Doesn’t want them  to get burned out. Doesn’t believe  it is through  legislation.

 

Comr. Hemphill – Struck by the fact that 90% of Grateful Dogs rescue  dogs are intact.  Recently  in Houston. Heard  PSA’s for spay/neuter. Doesn’t hear that  in SF.

 

Kim Durney – Doesn’t mean that  90% of all dogs in SF, just the strays. Would like to know  how that is happening  in Houston. Also wants all vets to talk about spay/neuter  with clients. Don’t think they  do.

 

Comr. Gordon – All vets do that. Has not worked with one that hasn’t. Thinks many  intact dogs  do not receive vet  care.

 

Kim Durney – Would like to know  who is responsible  for PSA’s. Would like  any PSA’s to also include  regular  vaccinations  and vet care.

 

Comr. Gordon – Doesn’t see many  problems  in SF from diseases that  vaccinations  can prevent.  Doesn’t know  if due to vaccinations  of most  animals  or SF’s isolation  being  surrounded by water  on three sides.

 

Comr. Padilla – Would like SPCA to partner  with  rescue  groups  to provide  at-cost  spay/neuter  for some number  of cats & dogs. Has to drive  to Sonoma, Oakland,  and Pacifica to receive  at-cost spay/neuter.  Peninsula Humane  Society, PHS, provides  service  sometimes  for free. SPCA missing opportunity.  PHS sends spay/neuter  van  to ACC and Pet Camp  twice  a month.  SPCA should take the lead for free and low-cost  spay/neuter.

 

Comr. Hemphill – Can spay/neuter  be done  by  a vet  assistant?

 

Comr. Gordon – Not by law.  Also, spay/neuter  of big dogs is a big deal. Vet costs have  increased  a lot  in recent  years.  Average  per hour fee  for surgery  is  $1000.  A spay/neuter  of a large dog  takes  about  an hour yet only costs $250. So, already subsidized.  Doesn’t know  why  costs have gone  up so much. We need a dedicated spay/neuter  facility in SF.

 

Kim Durney – Would like to see spay/neuter  van  go into under served parts  of the City  and offer services  for free.

 

Comr. Stephens – How have you found the best way to get more foster homes?  A big media campaign?

 

Kim Durney  - Word-of-mouth has worked for us. Better than Craig’s list. Word-of-mouth includes  dog-walkers  who  have  many  connect ions . Possibly, City’s volunteer  group.  First-time fosters fall in love with their foster, adopt  him and never  foster again.

 

Comr. Herndon – Hear  Avanzino’s  first no-kill talks. Issue has been  rehashed.  Issue comes  down to economics.  Has cat  with  abdominal  problems.  Vet tests cost  $1200 so far with  nothing  found. More tests coming.  Case today at  vicious dog hearing . One dog attacked  another.  Hospital bills will be  $4 to $5,000 . Owners  couldn’t afford it. Had dog euthanized.   Programs could be cut. Money  shifted. Frustrated with hearing  blame  on  how  programs  now work. Bottom  line  is how do we allocate  the funds.

 

Kim Durney – Some dog restrictions  of landlords  is by size.

 

Comr. Herndon – That goes back to State law  that said you couldn’t be  breed  restrictive.  Landlords  then said no dogs  over, say, 20 lbs. Unwise, because  many big dogs are better  suited to live in apartments.  Point is, you solve one problem  it creates  another.

 

Comr. Stephens – Peer-reviewed  study in 2005  showed  tenants  with pets did no more damage  than  tenants  without.  Most damage  done by  tenants  with children.  Any pet-damage  was  almost  always  covered  by the deposit.  Education out-reach  to landlords  may be helpful. Economics  is a big factor.  Maybe most expensive  cases  should be covered by those with deepest  pockets. 

 

Kim Durney – Yes we get the hardest  cases. If we don’t take them,  they  will die. We have  no facilities. Have to wait  at the vet’s office with everyone  else. That and limited foster care limits how many  dogs we save.

 

Comr. Herndon – Shelter does take easier cases because they  can  adopt  out more animals that  way. Five easy ones  vs. one hard one.

 

Kim Durney – Feels that burden  is on rescue groups to handle  hard cases.

 

Dr. Kate  Hurley – Has worked  in animal shelter  for 20 years.  Graduated UC Davis. First person in the world to do residency  in animal  shelter medicine.  Spent  three years visiting shelters  in U.S. Wanted to find out how to prevent  animals  from dying when they lost their  homes.  Afraid to talk tonight. To take on this issue about  trend  in animal  sheltering because  it is sad. Trend is about  talking about  no-kill , focusing on no-kill,  in context  of distrust, based  on premise  that people  that  work in shelters  and  in positions  of leadership  are not doing their best. And that they must be forced to do their best  through  legislation.  I give  freely of my time. I do good and I’m trusted to do good.  Don’t believe we  can solve problem  without  trusting one another. People that are doing this work must be trusted to be doing their best. During residency, visited  many shelters, some euthanizing, some no-kill. Nearly all who worked in the shelters cared. Some were burnt out. Some needed  education.  Concern about mandate is that we need to force people to do the right thing.  As former ACC officer, rarely wrote tickets.  Was much  more effective  by informing  them  of what  the right thing was. Wants to take what  is positive  in no-kill mandate  but leave what  will cause  inadvertent suffering. Worst thing is to assume  there  is a simple  answer .

  Questions, when hearing about  commu nities  that have had success with  black and white  solutions. Look at them over a period  of time. Often, a nuanced approach emerges.  Instead of no-kill for all healthy animals,  programs  develop  to relieve  suffering and allocate  resources  humanely.  Carrying  capacity  is limited  and can dwindle  if misused. From Global Development Research Center;  common fallacy  is to equate  existing  and unused spaces  as having  ability  to support  human life under modern conditions,  criteria  is rather not land area but carrying capacity. The ability of an area to sustain a population within  natural resource limits and not degrade  that environment  for future generations . When carrying capacity  is exceeded the environment  is degraded and can support fewer numbers.  This applies to shelters  and those that try to save  more animals  than they can do well. They over extend themselves  and can’t do any of it well. Biting off more than they can chew  leaves  them accomplishing  less.

    Shelter performance goals – 1) ending euthanasia of adoptable/treatable animals; 2) easing  health and comfort  of animals; 3) protection of public & animal  health; 4) providing adopters with appropriate pets & positive  adoption experience; 5) education of public and protection of animal  health and welfare.

  Shows photos of healthy cats that had been in shelters for extended periods of time or in small cages  exhibiting  abnormal behaviors. Shelter  managers  did not have  resources  to rehabilitate.  No other animals were helped by keeping  those cats. Admitting  more  animals  than could  be placed resulted in animals  suffering and a lot of money spent. Policy also applies  to dogs. Not a slam on no-kill. Doesn’t have  to be a part of no-kill. Shows photos of dogs. One dog in shelter  for twelve years.  Describes  that dog lunging and barking at potential adopters  who  left the shelter without  adopting  any  animal. Dogs left in shelters  for too long become  unadoptable.   Dogs have an expiration date.  Quotes from Tompkins  County shelter. Has twice  as many cats as they can handle.  Concerned overcrowding will lead to disease.  Upper respiratory  problems  and canine  distemper . Welfare and health  for animals  in shelters only means  preventing  these problems.  Focusing just  on ending euthanasia  can hurt  all the goals. Can keeping  all cages  full meet  the goals of the no-kill mandate?  Relates  situation  to grocer  stacking  cereal boxes. If only boxes  are displayed  that there is room for versus putting more boxes out, stacking  the boxes in the aisle, does not make shopper  want  more. Too many boxes stacked hide  the appeal of individual boxes.  The grocer  has to spend more time keeping the stacks neat  and neglecting  being at the cash register. People  are walking out  without buying anything.  Cereal  has an expiration  date. It goes bad. People will not buy from that store again.  Grocer  takes some boxes home to relieve  crowding  but doesn’t resolve  situation. Moral is no matter how many cages  are filled, euthanasia is driven by how many animals  go in and how many go out to permanent  homes.

  Shows graph from local shelter. One line is staff and volunteer  hours. Easy to attract  volunteers  when  animals  are nicely housed  and healthy. Another  line is total number of hours needed to give  every  animal  10 minutes of care  a day. Sometimes  they  needed  4 times as many hours as they actually had. Line on bottom shows actual time  available  per cat. Sometimes  as low as 2 1/2 minutes per cat. Increasing  inventory  means  less care for each  animal.  If animals brought  in, that need special care if sick, will need more care at the expense of healthy animals.  If shelter has too many  animals  to care for, it will take away from recruiting volunteers ;  clever  media campaigns;  communicating with vets  in the community.  Fewer animals  in inventory  means  less disease. Fewer animals  frees up staff to talk with customers.  Answer the phone.  Allows more  resources  for prevention so fewer animals coming in.  Bottom line is no matter what  happens  in a shelter, foster homes, or rescue systems,  animals  entering must  equal  animals  leaving.  Any program considered must  consider  how will this drop intake  or increase absolute number of adoptions.  Given competing programs;  promote  media campaign for spay/neuter;  or increased volunteers;  or increased rehabilitation;  or a more robust foster program.  Which one will increase adoptions,  or decrease  intake , with finite resources?

  ACC euthanized apx.  900  animals  last year. Could we have provided long term care for those animals  in a sanctuary?  Average life span is 10 years. If that number stayed the same  it would equal  9000 animals.  Best Friends Animal Sanctuary  nations largest. They had budget of 9.4 million in 2005. They cared for 1500. Math equals  56 million  caring for 9000 animals.  What  does long term care look like?  It must equal a minimum acceptable  adoptive home.  We have the idea that more adoption is the simple  answer. That we are just not trying hard enough.  That there are enough homes  in the U.S. to accommodate   the adoptive  pets. This was subject of my masters  thesis. If we could understand  why someone  purchased  a dog versus adopting from a shelter we could solve the problem. Stood in front of pet stores and asked people, “Why did you buy your dog there instead of adopting from a shelter?” Advisor, Dr. Phil Kass, asked what will happen  to the  dogs which were bred for sale?  Thinking was  that  as demand goes down for bred dogs fewer dogs would be born. Had marketing theory.  Half of the people  adopt  their dogs from shelters or rescue groups. The other half from breeders  and pet stores. Problem is can not redirect  one group that wants specific breed or type of dog to shelter animals.  Like asking  cola drinkers  to switch to Odwalla. Another big source of animals  is from friends & relatives.  Those animals  may wind up in shelters.  Cannot  adopt  our way  out  of euthanizing  cats, wind up getting more cats in. ACC’s 900 animals  are older and harder to adopt. They are not puppies and kittens. 

  Cites Nathan  Winograd’s statistics  that  ACC impounds  7.5 dogs and cats for every 1000 residents versus 15 per 1000 national average.  How to shrink pie?  Educate. Microchip. Reduce strays. Reduce  owner-surrendered animals.  Top 5 reasons for owner-surrender  are: too many animals;  too little space;  cost; lack of time;  and last reason,  aggression with dogs and house soiling with cats, which are harder problems to fix. First four are relatively  easy to fix. Last one is hard for owners and shelters to fix. Focus on spay/neuter. If one litter is prevented,  five lives are saved. Prevent one animal  from house soiling, one life is saved but may take  five times  as much work. If you want  to save the most lives do the work that has the most payoff. Using Nathan’s numbers, if you take in 7000  animals , there  are 7000 that were  not taken  in. This is a problem  with a mandate  that focuses on “no-kill” versus “no-intake”. You don’t get credit  for the 7000 that were saved , not needing  to go into the shelter. What  is significance  of educated pet-owners,   dogs  that get lost but have  a tag or a chip, litters that never happen due to low-cost spay/neuter?  Would be better  to mandate  policies  and programs  that  keep  pets with their owners.

  Shows graph  of Clark County, Nevada,  animal  intake  population over several years  in relation to spay/neuter program.  Intake numbers go down as spay/neuter go up. Euthanasia  rate  climbs  as intake  rate increases.  Intake decreased. Euthanasia  decreased.  Adoptions  eventually go  up after 7/8 years. Euthanasia  also increases  as does intake.  Shelter numbers  increase   and deaths  increase  due  to overcrowding.  Overall,  graph  shows  effect of numbers  when focus is just  on animals  in the shelter  versus  preventive programs.  If focus on ending euthanasia at cost of other goals, e.g., health and comfort of animals, is that fair?

   Cites save-rate numbers.  What  is considered  a no-kill  rate?  Around 90% save-rate. SF takes in 7.5 animals  for 1000 residents and has a 80% save-rate. Washoe County  takes  in 39 animals for 1000 residents. And has 90% save-rate.  SF has double the save-rate compared to Washoe county.  Numbers can work out to 31 per 1000 euthanized  in Washoe  Co. versus 15  per 1000 in SF. Yet doesn’t feel like victory in SF. Animals easiest  to keep out of shelter are easiest  to place.  Population  that doesn’t  know  about spay/neuter  is harder  to keep out of shelter  and harder  to place, such as pit bull  mixes. Takes  more  and more work  to place  difficult animals.  Tend to forget all that  has been  accomplished.   Need to hone  in on what  types on animals  are left. Not just  numbers.  Additionally , what does it mean  to bring wanted puppies  in from other counties when  none are being born in SF?

  Need volunteers  that  love  animals. Must have  hope  for those animals  so spirit of volunteers  can be fed. Visited shelter in Yolo County  that  had distemper  outbreak  in outdated shelter  run by prison inmates.  Sees need for work to be uplifting everywhere.   Visitor experience  must be positive  for them to adopt  from shelter.  When experience is fun they  may  volunteer.  Hard luck cases are hard for public  as well  as volunteers  and staff.

   A community  in balance  has programs  that has all the competing ways  to help;  care  for animals  in homes;  humanely, while  in shelters;  move  out quickly  to well-educated   owners,  making sure of a good-safe match.  Balance  all of that  with other needs  of a community. The homeless. People with AIDS. Kids. The environment. Need to think, what  is best for all beings. Simple answer  doesn’t allow  that. Who will do this work?  Will lazy, uncaring people do this? Need  talented, creative,  passionate people to work in animal  care and sheltering.  Need for them to work together  not distrustfully.  Not forced to do the right  thing.

 

Comr. Stephens – Given limited resources, what should we be focusing on?

 

Dr. Kate Hurley – Do a careful analysis of why animals  are suffering and dying. Never just look at numbers, in and out. Look at what is happening  while  in the system. Look at how many square feet of space  each  animal has and how many  minutes  of care. Compare  reason why  animals  are suffering and dying in your community   and  in other  communities. When know why, then think about programs will  effect the biggest  reason, how will programs address the biggest problems. Compare  programs.  See what groups spay/neuter  media  campaigns  need to reach and how best to reach them.  HSUS contacted groups that had intact  pets  and test marketed  messages to see what  spoke to them. Happy to help SF puzzle out these issues.

 

Comr. Padilla –  Hearing  that more focus should go on preventing animals  from entering system in the first place  rather than stopping of the killing. Want to hear how  you and Nathan  differ. All the ways  you describe  to keep  animals  from entering the shelter  are encompassed in the no-kill movement.

 

Dr. Kate Hurley – Don’t differ. Spend my life trying to stop animals being killed due to homelessness.  Differ in practice  and nuance.  No-kill mandates focus on the killing not on reducing the intake.  Not a fan of warehousing. Doesn’t place  more animals.  Communities  should be accountable  to all three things; intake,  warehousing, and killing.

 

Comr. Hemphill – What about  other  animals  in shelters?  Only hear of cats & dogs.

 

Dr. Kate Hurley  - Have  most examples  of cats & dogs. Same problem  for other animals such as rabbits. Need to solve problem by making more people want  more  bunnies  or decrease  circumstances  that cause  people  to give up their bunnies.

 

6. Public Comment

 

Jolene  Johnson - Concerned  of  possible conflict  of interest  of one of the Commissioners.  Not good to express personal  comments  about  employer  while  employer  is present. Supports discussion  on both sides  of the issue. Doesn’t believe it is divisive. Work takes a community  dedicated to saving animals  not just running  adoption business.  Proof that more can be done is that rescues are taking  unwanted  animals  and finding  homes. Adoption Pact  of 1994 stopped short of requiring a home for all treatable animals.  Savable animals that need a little behavioral  or medical treatment  are currently not being saved.  Recommends passing Nathans’ “Companion Animal Protection Act”.

 

Lana Bajsel – Heard that lack of funds is reason for no-kill to exist. See money spent on lavish buildings. Resources  are there but  money not  being spent appropriately.   Better that  animals  be warehoused with possibility   for adoption than be dead. Better animals  be stressed than be dead.

 

Jennifer Kratz – SPCA volunteer  - Describes her close relationship  with  her  geriatric foster cat . Does behavioral training . Describes  how she interacts with a 5 year old  feral named  Billy. Switched  from a private  vet to the SPCA vet hospital. Gives tours on new facility. Learned  that  all profits from SPCA hospital subsidize  low and free care  for SF residents. To say that one cat  is OK to be saved because it is in county  vs. out-of-county is not fair.

 

Catherine Brody – SPCA volunteer – Has been doing call backs  to people  who have adopted cats. Response  has been,  almost  always,  very  positive of the SPCA and their new  cat.

 

Laura Massa –  former SPCA volunteer/ current ACC volunteer – Stunned by medical  professional comparing  animals  to merchandise, to cereal boxes.  Best and brightest have left SPCA.

 

Mark Ennis – As human population grows,  so does the companion animal population. We should look at original purpose  of shelters – as housing  facilities.  That model  cannot  hold current  population. Need  to rethink  how  animals  are housed in shelters.  Perhaps  give  vets a tax break if they spay/neuter  at low cost. Need to be creative in coming up with solutions.

 

Cynthia  Cox – Appalled by comparing animals  to cereal boxes. Appalled at Commissioner arguing in favor of SPCA. Not against  taking out-of-county  animals. Just take SF animals first. Supports remarks of last speaker to be creative.

 

Holly Stempien  Fink – Animal  Services  Director  SF/SPCA – Need to work together as a team. Has to sign euthanasia  decisions. Hardest thing to do but best for the animals.

 

Tina Ahn – Director of communications  SF/SPCA – Dedicated paid staff and of volunteers.  Works with rescue groups. Has finite resources . All privately  funded.  Adoptions  of 4200  animals  in last fiscal year,  speaks well of the work  done. Had 150 foster volunteers.  Had 40,000 visits by AAT volunteers. Had 100’s of kids that go through  humane  education program.  400 to 500 volunteers  that  give  time annually.  Want to continue good work with the community. Doesn’t think mandated legislation is the way to go.

 

Kiska Icard – Communications  Manager SF/SPCA – Has worked at SPCA for twelve years. Tells  story of fostering two difficult-to-place dogs.  Doesn’t believe  SPCA is only concerned  about stats. She and others at SPCA care about the animals.

 

Public Comment  closed

 

7. General Public Comment

 

None

 

8. & 9. Future Commission Meetings and Task Allotments

 

Comr. Stephens – On going discussion on no-kill planned for May. More rescue groups will  speak.

 

10. Adjournment 8:35PM

 

Respectfully submitted by

Philip Gerrie

Commission Secretary